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Windsurf CEO: Betting On AI Agents, Pivoting In 48 Hours, And The Future of Coding

Y Combinator
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Varun Mohan didn't set out to build one of the fastest-growing AI developer tools. He just knew his company had to change, or die. After initially betting on GPU virtualization, he saw the writing on the wall: if there was a future for his company, it would be at the AI application layer, not infra. Over a single weekend, he and his team pivoted to building Windsurf— a tool to help everyone, both technical and non-technical, write code faster and smarter. In this conversation, Varun shares the inside story of how they pivoted at the edge of failure, trained new models from scratch, outpaced giants like GitHub Copilot, and what the future of building with AI looks like. Apply to Y Combinator: https://ycombinator.com/apply Work at a startup: https://workatastartup.com Chapters (Powered by https://chapterme.co/) - 0:00 Intro 00:53 Windsurf - how big is it, where did it start? 3:00 The big pivot 6:20 Irrational optimism + uncompromising reali …...more
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Intro

0:00

Windsurf - how big is it, where did it start?

0:53

The big pivot

3:00

Irrational optimism + uncompromising realism

6:20

Earliest versions shipped

7:52

The first customers

10:26

The transition from Codeium to Windsurf

13:13

Going up against Github Copilot

19:45

All insights depreciate; you need to keep proving yourself

23:15

Strong evals go a long way

26:50

Windsurf for hardcore engineering

30:15

Tips to get more precise changes when vibe coding

31:55

How will Windsurf evolve

35:15

Will AI become the infinite workhorse?

38:00

How does Windsurf interview candidates?

38:48

What happens if we get “just in time” software?

42:48

How many non-developers use Windsurf?

44:46

Thoughts on the GPT wrapper meme

47:28

Advice for new AI startups

49:17

Outro

51:39
Windsurf CEO: Betting On AI Agents, Pivoting In 48 Hours, And The Future of Coding
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Varun Mohan didn't set out to build one of the fastest-growing AI developer tools. He just knew his company had to change, or die. After initially betting on GPU virtualization, he saw the writing on the wall: if there was a future for his company, it would be at the AI application layer, not infra. Over a single weekend, he and his team pivoted to building Windsurf— a tool to help everyone, both technical and non-technical, write code faster and smarter. In this conversation, Varun shares the inside story of how they pivoted at the edge of failure, trained new models from scratch, outpaced giants like GitHub Copilot, and what the future of building with AI looks like. Apply to Y Combinator: https://ycombinator.com/apply Work at a startup: https://workatastartup.com Chapters (Powered by https://chapterme.co/) - 0:00 Intro 00:53 Windsurf - how big is it, where did it start? 3:00 The big pivot 6:20 Irrational optimism + uncompromising realism 7:52 Earliest versions shipped 10:26 The first customers 13:13 The transition from Codeium to Windsurf 19:45 Going up against Github Copilot 23:15 All insights depreciate; you need to keep proving yourself 26:50 Strong evals go a long way 30:15 Windsurf for hardcore engineering 31:55 Tips to get more precise changes when vibe coding 35:15 How will Windsurf evolve 38:00 Will AI become the infinite workhorse? 38:48 How does Windsurf interview candidates? 42:48 What happens if we get “just in time” software? 44:46 How many non-developers use Windsurf? 47:28 Thoughts on the GPT wrapper meme 49:17 Advice for new AI startups 51:39 Outro
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